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Well? So many pedals simply emulate the sound of a famous amp EXCEPT for a Tweed. For example:
Dumble pedals: Howie, Barber Burn Unit, Baby Blue, Rumble Mod, Mosferatu (at low distortion setting)… AC30 pedals: TBIAC, EGDM… Plexi pedals: King of the Britains, Hot British, Dyna Red… Bassman pedal: Dirty Blonde… Deluxe Reverb Pedal: King of Tone… WHAT ABOUT A TWEED PEDAL? Has anybody made one? Any quality examples out there? I can’t think of one that fits. I sure enjoy playing my tele through the tweed side of my amp. That hollow tweed sound is perfect for a telecaster – a decidedly treble-centric guitar is perfect for that hollow mid-range voicing. Almost as if the genius Leo Fender designed it that way. WHAT ABOUT A TWEED PEDAL? Well? LFB ............................................................................................................................. Hey, I sound like me! |
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Isn't there one called the Tweedy from the people that make the V-Stack?
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quote: Is it any good? Have you tried it? LFB ............................................................................................................................. Hey, I sound like me! |
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There is also the Tweed side of the Death Rattle and the old Tweedy Dog Snarling dogs pedals...
And Marshalls are very close to Tweed Bassmans so its kind of hair splitting.... |
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The Pharaoh Rodeo Drive is a great, tweedy sounding overdrive. Lots of presence, hollowness, and grind. Not too expensive either.
Matt Farrow at Pharaoh (get it?!?! Ha!) has a new version out, the Rodeo Drive II, which purports to be a Red Llama-derived circuit. I had my first-series Rodeo upgraded to the specs of the current verion, but I think I might like the original version more. Hmmmmm....what to do, what to do? |
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Menatone "Dirty Blonde".
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The Clark Gainster
"I've spent most of my money on booze, women and guitar gear. The rest I've just wasted." |
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quote: NOT TRUE! The Burn Unit has always shown examples of many sounds INCLUDING TWEED in our manual, it just seem players get hung up on and primarily discuss the Dumble attribute due to the possiblity of emulating the OD texture of a $15,000.00 amplifer. Many textures are included in the BU, the Gainster from Clark was also a Tweed style overdrive texture. David Barber |
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The Tonebone Classic can be dialed in for a tweed tone, I've cranked my 59 Bassman RI and then dialed the TB Classic in to sound just like it while still keeping sane levels.
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Theres a difference between a pedal that sounds like a cranked tweed and a pedal made to overdrive a tweed circuit.... which are we talking about??
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A 1959 Bassman is a Tweed Fender...many pedals out there emulating a bassman. There are some additional "tweed" like pedals out there...most already listed.
IMHO there is no such thing as a "tweed" pedal. While you can get a pedal to sound like a tweed fender, none will be capable of producing the feel of say a 5E3 deluxe...which is 90% of the ball game for me. No pedal produces the feel and touch of the 5E3 deluxe....its an amp one should buy and play if that's what they truely want. Bb |
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I've tried the Burn Unit and was really impressed.It did the tweed tone as good as any pedal I've heard.I didn't pull the trigger because I was using a Vox syle amp at the time and it hated almost every pedal I threw at it.Now that I have a fender sounding amp I might put the trigger on one.I'm in the process of selling some pedals that I don't use that often.
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Thanks guys, as usual, all great suggestions/input – this site is the absolute best on the net for pedal suggestions – for the leading subject-matter experts on the net, look no further than here!
I’ve been enjoying the heck out of the tweed side of my amp – that, after almost exclusive use of the blackface side. I’ve been playing my tele mostly these days. I’m liking the sound of the amp and was looking for a pedal designed that emulates that sound to (possibly) squeeze even more out of it. I like a tweed for how it sounds to me. It really isn’t like any other amp design. It isn’t sparkly and glassy like a blackface super. It isn’t jangly like an AC30. It isn’t grindy like a Plexi. It is raw and primal. It just sounds primitive and unrefined with a natural crudeness to it. That’s what I’m looking for – that’s the sound I like and I want more of it! Thanks again guys! LFB ............................................................................................................................. Hey, I sound like me! |
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quote: Never tried it - try a search at the Gear Page on the effcts page - I believe that's where I read about it. |
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Bb sort of stole my thunder. The magic of some amps is their tone, but the magic in Tweeds IMO is the "butter". I remember the first time I played through a real '54 Pro. Even at low volumes, my knees got weak. I never experienced such pure responsiveness, for lack of a better term. Sure they have a nice distortion quality, and a definate recognizable tone stack. But you could alter all that and the mojo of such a pure and simple design would still be there. You have to play a real one to experience it. To an extent this is true of all the more famous tube amps. There is mojo and magic there that a pedal just won't fully capture. I have never played a pedal that really sounded all that much like the real amp whose tone it was supposedly modeled after. Even modelers pale in comparison to the real thing. In the end you can only force your rig to lean a little in a given direction EQ/tonewise with a pedal. But tweeds are such a completely simple and pure amp design, as simple as it gets in some instances, that the mojo really is all about the wood, tubes, and iron, and it just can't be really copied IMO. A good example is what DonneR alluded to. The earliest Marshalls were schematically similar to a Bassman. But they used different tubes, different iron, different caps, different speakers, different cabinets. Play both and you'll find they aren't that similar sounding. These amps are so organic that even the mechanical properties of how they are built significantly affect the feel and tone. Maybe you didn't mean to imply such a 'Tweed purist' notion as what I am rambling about, but I still wouldn't want to be the guy who put his name on a product that tried to copy all that magic with an opamp and some diodes.
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WoW Mapleneck, your post sounds like a wine review with a splash of history, nice work...
So help me out here, what am I looking for? The V-Stack Tweedy sounds real interesting to me, and the Gainster has possibilities. And guys, thanks for the other suggestions too! Am I missing anything? LFB ............................................................................................................................. Hey, I sound like me! |
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Nick Greer recently posted a link to sound clips of some of his pedals recently. I think most of those clips have much tweed in them...especially the Fuzzy Whooly Bear.
I used to own Nick's Ghetto Stomp and that had a low gain tweed thing going on. I had one of the first Pedalworx Tour Pros when they first came out about a year and half ago...I thought that pedal was a cool hybrid of tweed/british overdrive. |
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Ah yes, the Tour Pro Toggle - haven't heard much from that pedal since the "press" early on. Yet another pedal to look at - I remember reading something about the tweedy quality of that one.
I must add the TPT to the list - I had a Texas Two Step for a while, isn't that essentially the same circuit? LFB ............................................................................................................................. Hey, I sound like me! |
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I've heard people describe Dumbles as sounding like a Tweed Twin(Eric Johnson on His First Instructional video). Wouldn't a pedal that modeled after a Dumble qualify as a Tweed like pedal?
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