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How many TS-type pedals can you think of/name?

I'm in the market for a new OD and was surfing the Musictoyz site, looking at all the different flavors. I realized the number of TS based/inspired pedals was astounding. Then I tried to remember all the TS based pedals I could think of.

By TS-type, I mean Tubescreamer (or SD-1 or OD-1), basically a dual opamp, with clipping diodes in the feedback loop of the opamp, followed by a high cut and/or tone control. The characteristic sound has a low end rolloff (to prevent muddiness and garbage harmonics) and high end rolloff (to remove harshness for a smooth sound).

MJM Blues Devil
Fulltone Fulldrive 2
Cusack Screamer
Barber Tone Pump
BJF LGW
Landgraff Dynamic OD
Guyatone OD-2
Jacques Tube Blower
Voodoo Lab Sparkle Drive
Maxon OD9, 808
MMFX Tube Killer
Pedalworx TTS
Takky Drive
Sobbat Drivebreaker
Visual Sound Jekyll & Hyde
TRex Alberta
Menatone Red Snapper, Blue Collar
Aramat Green Machine
Shannon Overdrive
Way Huge Green Rhino
Burriss Boostiest
 
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Jeez... just thinking about it makes me sick. Tubescreamers are great for one sound, and that's all. It's just a sound that's been WAY overdone. I've promised myself that DS Designs will never build/sell a TS cloned pedal. Too many other people are already doing it, and doing it well.

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Maxon OD820
Big Tone Music Brewery Classic OD+

I love tubescreamers, keep 'em coming!
 
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...Tell me about the Cusack Screamer?...


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The definition of "TS" is rather loose, some of the pedals listed are closer to a TS and some are not really a TS at all, by the definition of "diodes in feedback loop of op amp", that would make many VCR units a TS style as well, not to mention many other devices on this earth. There is MUCH more to tone and effect pedals than a schematic or a small part of a schematic for that matter.

On the other hand, there is no doubt about the fact that many companies are founded on nearly direct TS clone. For some reason we get calls every day from players DYING to buy yet another, every one wanting "SRV tone", the demand by players is simply there. Unfortunately for my profit margin I do not make a TS clone at this time, although we make pedals that can be used in a very similar way, but if a player is demanding a TS clone we send them along to a company who actually specializes in such things.


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maxon od9------------the real deal!
 
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Originally posted by David Barber:
The definition of "TS" is rather loose, some of the pedals listed are closer to a TS and some are not really a TS at all, by the definition of "diodes in feedback loop of op amp", that would make many VCR units a TS style as well, not to mention many other devices on this earth. There is MUCH more to tone and effect pedals than a schematic or a small part of a schematic for that matter.



Thanks for taking time to write, David. I realize my description was non-specific and vague, and the "definition" is loose, but that was deliberate on my part, to keep things relatively non-technical and proprietary things proprietary. Notice I used the words based/type/inspired, and not "clone" or "schematic".

In any case, it's like a certain swoopy, 3 pickup guitar that recently celebrated a 50th birthday. Pick up any similarly shaped alder/maple guitar with 3 single coils, 25.5" scale length and a tremolo made in the last 50 years, the sound will be similar but different - but they will all have that Strat "character". If you're familiar with the TS sound, play any/all of the pedals mentioned above and at first thought, you'd say "yeah, that sounds like a TS". But play them some more, and their individual voices come through.
 
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Hey DigDug - didn't I just buy the custom MJM from you? Hey!

The Cusack Screamer is a variation on the TS with much more gain and a very nice and versatile tone. I got one! Might get rid of it, who knows.... :-)
 
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Hey come on this was supposed to be a fun name game thingy and your trying to turn it into an educational thingy-offsides !!!!! Wink
 
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....and who can explain why the ts 5 and 7 came AFTER the 8, 9 and 10..... best TS ever MIJ TS10 !!
 
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I had a TS10 with 'right' IC thingy in it. It was nice as a 'booster' with the gain and tone on min and the vol on max. I sold it when I got the FD2.
 
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....and who can explain why the ts 5 and 7 came AFTER the 8, 9 and 10..... best TS ever MIJ TS10 !!


Great question DonneR (as usual Smile)

Maybe a DonneRworX painted TS-1 is in the makings here?

Beating Ibanez to the punch. LOL Big Grin






 
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Ha ha if you think about it, Ibanez actually was going in descending order until the 10 series: 808, 9, 10, 5, 7. The 808 is the "best" of the bunch so it has the highest number. The 5 is the lowliest (the only one with a plastic case) so it has the lowest number. Hm... but then the 7 would have to have a higher number than the 10 since it has more tonal options, but it's not green. I give up Smile

Oh yeah, thought out another TS type: Clark Gainster.
 
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Has anyone mentioned the Klon yet?
 
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The Klon is a cat of a different breed. I wouldn't classify it as being of Tube Screamer lineage.
 
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Banzai Fireball


Gainster rocks.
 
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What is interesting is that none of the clones sound the same to me. They all seem to be like different flavors of ice cream.

I too thought the Klon was a TS but I think what makes it different is that it is not a single ic pedal plus, runs on 18 volts, is always buffered and it's just a different circuit. It does sound TSish in a hi-fi way to my ear too Dosmun.






 
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The reason I kept my Klon was because it sounded way better (especially with the noise floor and not cutting out any frequencies noticably...) than any tube screamer clone I'd ever played on...but it does have some similar characteristics...

though I really want to try some BJF boost pedals now that Bjorn has been so nice as to reply to my posts on here a few times...friendlyness goes a long way damnit! Smile


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