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Just follow the logic that he tries to present here . Its delusional . This is the EGM I always see and can't stand .
Rico Suave Senior Member Registered: Apr 2001 Location: Douglasville, Ga. Posts: 35337 Thumbs up Restaurants/clubs ASCAP is suing over copyright violations! ASCAP Launches Infringement Actions against Establishments Performing Copyrighted Music without Permission Monday January 24, 1:27 pm ET NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 24, 2005--Today, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers filed 24 separate copyright infringement actions against nightclubs, bars, and restaurants in 15 states and the District of Columbia. These establishments (listed below) have publicly performed the copyrighted musical works of ASCAP's songwriter, composer and music publisher members without receiving their permission to do so, resulting in lost income. "Informing business owners of their obligations under Federal Copyright Law is one of ASCAP's key roles," said Vincent Candilora, Senior Vice President of Licensing at ASCAP. "We provide any business using music the opportunity to receive permission through acceptance of a license covering the use of over 8 million copyrighted songs and compositions, and we make every effort to educate business owners concerning their music licensing responsibilities. If our good efforts are ignored, then our only recourse is legal action." During 2004, ASCAP achieved a 100% success rate with its copyright infringement litigation, with all concluded cases resulting in either a cash settlement or a judgment in favor of ASCAP members. This is significant as ASCAP represents over 200,000 member owners who, for the most part, are songwriters and composers who rely heavily on their ASCAP royalties, as well as ASCAP's enforcement efforts on their behalf. Over 86 cents of every dollar collected is distributed to its members, the music creators. According to Vince Abbatiello, ASCAP Vice President of Sales and Director of General Licensing, "When business owners ignore their obligations and violate Federal Copyright Law, they are actually stealing from the songwriters and composers who created the music compositions that those businesses are using. Individual songwriters and composers are the ultimate small business people, working on their own with limited opportunity for sustained success. We only take legal action when all other means of resolution have been exhausted. But when we litigate on behalf of our members, our success rate is always very high. Business owners who ignore the Copyright Law in the belief that they can escape penalty should treat this very seriously. Don't steal our members' music." Establishment, City and State: Challengers, Pelham, AL Back Porch, Tuscalossa, AL Hard Dock Cafe, Decatur, AL Saddlerack, Chandler, AZ Josh Slocum's, Newport Beach, CA Joe's Cafe, Branford, CT Home Nightclub, Washington, DC Jade, Miami Beach, FL Estate (f/k/a Nocturnal), Chicago, IL Hundred South Grille a/k/a 100 South Chop House, Elmhurst, IL Le Passage/Yow Bar, Chicago, IL Costello's, Jamaica Plain, MA Buffalo Billiards, Gaithersburg, MD American Sports Cafe, St. Paul, MN Buffalo Tap & Grille, Savage, MN Soulard Ale House, St. Louis, MO Gilligan's, Surf City, NC J. Lindsay's, Columbus, OH Denim, Philadelphia, PA R.P. McMurphy's, Holmes, PA Wolfy's, Nashville, TN Happy Town Karaoke, Houston, TX OUI Club, Wichita Falls, TX Scuttlebutts Restaurant and Bar, Lubbock, TX About ASCAP Established in 1914, ASCAP is the first and leading Performing Rights Organization in the U.S., representing the world's largest music repertory. ASCAP is committed to protecting the rights of its members by licensing and collecting royalties for the public performance of their copyrighted works, and then distributing these fees to the Society's members based on performances. Unlike the other American Performing Rights Organizations, ASCAP's Board of Directors is made up solely of writers and publishers, elected by the membership every two years. Every year ASCAP provides over $3 million dollars in special awards to promising music creators whose works may be performed in venues that may not be actively surveyed. And the ASCAP Foundation, established in 1975 by ASCAP members, has the mission of nurturing new talent and promoting music education. It has assisted countless aspiring music creators in career development and fulfillment. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contact: ASCAP Pauline Stack, 212-621-6278 pstack@ascap.com __________________ You can't let one bad moment spoil a bunch of good ones. ~Dale Earnhardt "Say, for your 10th anniversary, you could make her a nice home-made-from-the-heart gift...perhaps a video tape of yourself "eating" your 12-guage"...Terry Allan Hall commenting on my wedding anniversary. "My suggestion for what to give your long suffering wife on your 10th anniversary still stands....do her (and the rest of Earth) a favor...take one for the team."...more from Terry Allan Hall Terry Allan Hall...10/08/04 ... "Well, it is awfully nice for him to put words I didn't actually say in his "sig"...now, if he's just act on them! Yeah, I realize that the last part of that sentence makes me just as big an a**-hole as Hoddy, himself... " Hey Hoddy, why don't you do us all a favour, take TAH's advice and have your gauge for lunch. I'll buy the shell for fuck's sake. Just die, you filthy, pitiful excuse for a human being. ...Reasonable Man - 11/07/04 I'll enjoy the day someone digs your grave....Reasonable Man 12/07/04 Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged New Post 01-27-2005 11:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Rico Suave Click here to Send Rico Suave a Private Message Find more posts by Rico Suave Add Rico Suave to your buddy list marcellis Senior Member Registered: Dec 1998 Location: Noo Awlins Lousy-Anna Posts: 4564 I'm a member of ASCAP. And they have done diddly-squat for me. I think suing restaurants and bars really sucks. How does it help musicians to sue their employers and force them out of business? ASCAP increasingly, is an organization that protects the profits of people like Bacharach and Billy Joel and does nothing for anyone else. __________________ My creed: Ceci n'est pas une pipe! Anything beyond that, is ultimately unknowable. At best it is errant nonsense, and at worst, it is just plain common sense. ___________________ Bands: Pont Mirabeau/Hester Street Hotshots USA MP3 page #1 USA MP3 page #2 France MP3 Pages,(Film Musique & Fantomas) Italy MP3 Pages et seq., inter alia Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged New Post 01-27-2005 11:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for marcellis Click here to Send marcellis a Private Message Visit marcellis's homepage! Find more posts by marcellis Add marcellis to your buddy list EvilGuitarMonke Senior Member Registered: Aug 2002 Location: England, over there (next to that piece of cake) Posts: 38066 quote:Originally posted by marcellis I'm a member of ASCAP. And they have done diddly-squat for me. I think suing restaurants and bars really sucks. How does it help musicians to sue their employers and force them out of business? ASCAP increasingly, is an organization that protects the profits of people like Bacharach and Billy Joel and does nothing for anyone else. You mean that it protects the interests of people who actually have interests, rather than wannabe musos who've maybe got one published song that never gets played __________________ Underneath the blue skies beautiful empty dying Nagasaki dolls are burning Bitty? Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged New Post 01-27-2005 12:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for EvilGuitarMonke Click here to Send EvilGuitarMonke a Private Message Find more posts by EvilGuitarMonke Add EvilGuitarMonke to your buddy list marcellis Senior Member Registered: Dec 1998 Location: Noo Awlins Lousy-Anna Posts: 4564 Nope. That's not what I meant at all. Get back on the medication EGM. You're in a cranky mood. I don't like the idea of strong-arming small business owners to pay money to an organization. It smacks of racketeering or worse, the IRS. I actually get checks now & then from ASCAP for airplay of one of my songs - in Europe. I also get checks for some English musician who plays "Christian Rock". He has the same name as me. I sent one of the checks back to ASCAP with a letter. They sent me another. I threw it in the trash. It's a screwed up organization. Probably corrupt. __________________ My creed: Ceci n'est pas une pipe! Anything beyond that, is ultimately unknowable. At best it is errant nonsense, and at worst, it is just plain common sense. ___________________ Bands: Pont Mirabeau/Hester Street Hotshots USA MP3 page #1 USA MP3 page #2 France MP3 Pages,(Film Musique & Fantomas) Italy MP3 Pages et seq., inter alia Last edited by marcellis on 01-27-2005 at 12:33 PM Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged New Post 01-27-2005 12:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for marcellis Click here to Send marcellis a Private Message Visit marcellis's homepage! Find more posts by marcellis Add marcellis to your buddy list EvilGuitarMonke Senior Member Registered: Aug 2002 Location: England, over there (next to that piece of cake) Posts: 38066 quote:Originally posted by marcellis Nope. That's not what I meant at all. Get back on the medication EGM. You're in a cranky mood. Did you ever consider that a) people don't listen to you when you're just being a jerk b) you should make yourself understood c) people don't listen to you when you're just being a jerk ? __________________ Underneath the blue skies beautiful empty dying Nagasaki dolls are burning Bitty? Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged New Post 01-27-2005 12:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for EvilGuitarMonke Click here to Send EvilGuitarMonke a Private Message Find more posts by EvilGuitarMonke Add EvilGuitarMonke to your buddy list Guitar Joe Senior Member Registered: Aug 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 7383 quote:Originally posted by EvilGuitarMonke Did you ever consider that a) people don't listen to you when you're just being a jerk b) you should make yourself understood c) people don't listen to you when you're just being a jerk ? marcellis simply gave his opinion on the story, and then you replied with this...... quote:Originally posted by EvilGuitarMonke You mean that it protects the interests of people who actually have interests, rather than wannabe musos who've maybe got one published song that never gets played Who is the one being a jerk? |
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quote: Hmm, obsess much. Just post the damn link, so that anyone who is really interested (that'd be YOU and, erm, YOU) could read the thread for themselves. Second thoughts, I'll do it for you. http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=841150 It makes me wonder what people talked about here before I arrived  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Don't wanna see your face, Don't wanna hear your voice, Why don't you just f......... |
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Why are you c&ping OJ threads here?
That is beyond lame my friend. Beyond lame.  |
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The telling post :
EvilGuitarMonke Senior Member Registered: Aug 2002 Location: England, over there (next to that piece of cake) Posts: 38066 quote:Originally posted by Guitar Joe marcellis simply gave his opinion on the story, and then you replied with this...... Who is the one being a jerk? Lets see shall we? Marcellis gives his opinion. EGM gives his opinion Marcellis abuses EGM for having an opinion that doesn't coincide with his own. EGM suggests that being a jerk is a bad way to get a message accross. Guitar Joe launches an attack on EGM. The conclusion is clear: marcellis was the initial jerk, followed by his buddy Guitar Joe. YMMV __________________ 1. Yes the guy gave his opinion . 2. Yes EGM gives a strong opinion and even insults the guy . 3. Abuses? Do you really think he was abusing you ? 4. Nice choice of words , "jerk" is always a good neutralizing word to use . 5. Someone else pointing out that you might be a little too harsh is an "attack on you" 6. Again , everyone else is the "jerk" , not poor little EGM . EGM you are delusional . |
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Second thoughts, I'll do it for you.
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=841150 It makes me wonder what people talked about here before I arrived [/QUOTE]dumbass that link really helps the people that were banned from there doesn it  |
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Well I've been banned, and I have no interest in reading the thread.
Hope that helps. |
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quote: dumbass that link really helps the people that were banned from there doesn it [/QUOTE]Awww, don't cry  =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Don't wanna see your face, Don't wanna hear your voice, Why don't you just f......... |
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quote: Awww, don't cry [/QUOTE]AGain , whats the "dont cry" have to do with it? Why would you post a link to OJ knowing that theres people here currently banned and would not be able to see it ? Why is my pointing that out to you which is just showing that you dont think, a cause for me to cry? Your thought processes are really out of whack guy . I think thats half your battle with people . Is there some mental deficiency ? |
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quote: Now, please run along and invent some more lies about me. After all, we were in danger of there NOT being at least two threads attacking me on page one for a time back there. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Don't wanna see your face, Don't wanna hear your voice, Why don't you just f......... |
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quote: I'm trying to tell you not to cry, because nobody cares that I hurt your little feelings over on OJ. Its more polite than telling you to GROW THE FUCK UP AND STOP BEING SO OBSESSIVE, but with the same underlying implications. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Don't wanna see your face, Don't wanna hear your voice, Why don't you just f......... |
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quote: "You mean that it protects the interests of people who actually have interests, rather than wannabe musos who've maybe got one published song that never gets played " you need to engage brain before typing . |
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Brikus; what's up with you man?
This is totally lame. |
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quote: You need to get a better hobby than posting pissy little attack threads about people. Ever tried masturbation? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Don't wanna see your face, Don't wanna hear your voice, Why don't you just f......... |
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We have something like ASCAP here, and they´ve only been a pain in the ass.
I really hope the next time they send someone to be a pain in me and my band´s collective ass it´s when we play at a Hell´s Angels get together! 
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quote: In the UK we have the PRS (performing rights society). They don't really interfere with cover bands, but the venues have to be licensed. personally, I'm all in favour of songwriters getting paid for their work. Whether that actually happens all that much is another question entirely. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Don't wanna see your face, Don't wanna hear your voice, Why don't you just f......... |
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quote: Yeah; it does happen. I'm a member and I get a cheque every year regardless of the fact that I haven't released a record for 5 years or something and my records don't get played in public very often (if ever). ASCAP is actually a far better org than PRS; it is far more involved in promiting music and far less lazy. Having said that, one of my best friends works for the PRS and he insists that it's improving... |
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quote: Cool and groovy. Thnaks for the info. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Don't wanna see your face, Don't wanna hear your voice, Why don't you just f......... |
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