..Like Bloc Party, Kaiser Chiefs, Ordinary Boys with their lame pastiches of New Wave.

Better to buy reissues of The Jam, Buzzcoc.ks, Clash etc. The real thing is way better.

Judas Priest

Live

Day after tomorrow

There's nothing quite like an old guy spoiling the fun for the young-uns, is there Zeo?

The simple fact of the matter is that while I don't like these bands either, they are kids bands for kids. And I'm not a kid. Nor are you.

Might as well complain that there isn't room for a golden retriever and a ruck-sack in the back of a formula one racing car.

Try not to be such a grumpy old man Zeo, there's a good chap.

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Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:
There's nothing quite like an old guy spoiling the fun for the young-uns, is there Zeo?

The simple fact of the matter is that while I don't like these bands either, they are kids bands for kids. And I'm not a kid. Nor are you.

Might as well complain that there isn't room for a golden retriever and a ruck-sack in the back of a formula one racing car.

Try not to be such a grumpy old man Zeo, there's a good chap.

Let's be clear.

Zeo is a righteous dude who does not discriminate on the grounds of age.

The bands under discussion should not be accepted because they are shit, not because they are young.

dumb old men always wanna keep the youths down.
so funny how the moldies forget what it was like to be young, alive and topical. so sad to see someone codify their resentment to the extent this NICE old man Zeo has.

old fucks always want the beatles shit reborn all again, or the sex pistols - whatever floated their boats all those years ago

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Originally posted by Oakland:
dumb old men always wanna keep the youths down.
so funny how the moldies forget what it was like to be young, alive and topical. so sad to see someone codify their resentment to the extent this NICE old man Zeo has.

old fucks always want the beatles shit reborn all again, or the sex pistols - whatever floated their boats all those years ago

You seem to be missing my point.

The bands under discussion should not be accepted precisely because they are doing old shit. The original stuff was, and still is, better than their lame copy of it.


Zeo accepts groups (of any age) who are making good music in a new way.

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Originally posted by Oakland:
dumb old men always wanna keep the youths down.
so funny how the moldies forget what it was like to be young, alive and topical. so sad to see someone codify their resentment to the extent this NICE old man Zeo has.

old fucks always want the beatles shit reborn all again, or the sex pistols - whatever floated their boats all those years ago

speaking as a youth. . .I would have to say

music sucks ass now for the most part . . .

save a handfull of bands. . . I would say

the percentage of crap to good music was much

lower on the crap end back in the day.

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Originally posted by Zeopold:


The bands under discussion should not be accepted precisely because they are doing old shit. The original stuff was, and still is, better than their lame copy of it.


Zeo accepts groups (of any age) who are making good music in a new way.

Sex Pistols et al were just doing lame copies of MC5 and The Stooges, yet I'd be willing to bet you wouldn't have listened to some old bastard whining on about them being old-hat when they were around.

The kids are alright.

There are very few truly seminal acts in the history of rock, and I'm willing to bet you don't even like most of them.

Oh, and all this coming from a man who only a few days ago was singin the praises of Doves; probably the most f.uck-boring, uninspired, unadventurous band in contemporary Britain.

Or is that Elbow? Or Cold Play? Or any of the other myriad of sound-alike bands?

So hard to tell.

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Originally posted by Zeopold:

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Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:
There's nothing quite like an old guy spoiling the fun for the young-uns, is there Zeo?

The simple fact of the matter is that while I don't like these bands either, they are kids bands for kids. And I'm not a kid. Nor are you.

Might as well complain that there isn't room for a golden retriever and a ruck-sack in the back of a formula one racing car.

Try not to be such a grumpy old man Zeo, there's a good chap.

Let's be clear.

Zeo is a righteous dude who does not discriminate on the grounds of age.

The bands under discussion should not be accepted because they are shit, not because they are young.

Zeo is correct and rules as usual!

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Originally posted by Oakland:
dumb old men always wanna keep the youths down.
so funny how the moldies forget what it was like to be young, alive and topical. so sad to see someone codify their resentment to the extent this NICE old man Zeo has.

old fucks always want the beatles shit reborn all again, or the sex pistols - whatever floated their boats all those years ago

Actually, I thought there was hope when the first Rammstein was released.

Too bad I was wrong!

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Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:
Sex Pistols et al were just doing lame copies of MC5 and The Stooges, yet I'd be willing to bet you wouldn't have listened to some old bastard whining on about them being old-hat when they were around.

As it happens, I don't recall anyone whining about the Pistols being old hat. The oldsters were rather worried about punk as it goes. The writing was on the wall.

If the Pistols were influenced by anyone it was Faces.

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Originally posted by Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:

There are very few truly seminal acts in the history of rock, and I'm willing to bet you don't even like most of them.

Oh, and all this coming from a man who asserted that 'Kraftwerk were better than the Beatles' Tell me more I'm all ears LOL.

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Originally posted by Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:

Oh, and all this coming from a man who only a few days ago was singin the praises of Doves; probably the most f.uck-boring, uninspired, unadventurous band in contemporary Britain.

And I'll continue to sing their praises. They do a convincing fusion of rock and electronica, and have taken it mainstream, as many of their ilk have failed to do. They write memorable and uplifting tunes and deliver the goods live.

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Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:


Or is that Elbow? Or Cold Play?

You tell me. I recall you defending the contemptible Coldplay with a passion not so long ago on OJ.

Perhaps you were just doing it for the sake of an argument.

To each her own, I suppose.

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Originally posted by Zeopold:


And I'll continue to sing their praises. They do a convincing fusion of rock and electronica, and have taken it mainstream, as many of their ilk have failed to do. They write memorable and uplifting tunes and deliver the goods live.

Uhuh.

Nothing too taxing or seminal eh?

Just like the bands you are whining about.

Take it easy grandad.

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Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:
Nothing too taxing or seminal eh?

Doves have an interesting history. They evolved from rave - era dance outfit to a kickass rock n roll band.

You can't travel that road without trying the odd innovation here and there.

If I wanted taxing I'd try a correspondence course in algebra, or root canal work without anaeshetic, or Xiu Xiu.

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Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:


Just like the bands you are whining about.

Nothing like them. The current fad seems to be to trade on the tendency of the gullible to mistake leaping about a lot and shouting for dynamism.


Some of us are old enough, and hip enough to know the difference.

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Originally posted by Zeopold:
..Like Bloc Party, Kaiser Chiefs, Ordinary Boys with their lame pastiches of New Wave.

Better to buy reissues of The Jam, Buzzcoc.ks, Clash etc. The real thing is way better.

Very true.

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Originally posted by Monkey!:

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Originally posted by Zeopold:
..Like Bloc Party, Kaiser Chiefs, Ordinary Boys with their lame pastiches of New Wave.

Better to buy reissues of The Jam, Buzzcoc.ks, Clash etc. The real thing is way better.

Very true.

admit it, you want the old man's pork in your sausage holder

England hasn't had a decent band since suede or elastica.Just my dumb opinion.

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Originally posted by Zeopold:

Doves have an interesting history. They evolved from rave - era dance outfit to a kickass rock n roll band.

You can't travel that road without trying the odd innovation here and there.

Sounds AMAZING!

Mainstream acid-house meets mainstream pop-rock!! Incredible!!

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If I wanted taxing I'd try a correspondence course in algebra, or root canal work without anaeshetic, or Xiu Xiu.

Each to their own; I like challenging music that pushes the boundaries. You like trad-rock.

Dif'rent strokes...

Maybe you should remember that when you are dissing the music that the youngers are digging.

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Nothing like them. The current fad seems to be to trade on the tendency of the gullible to mistake leaping about a lot and shouting for dynamism.

Some of us are old enough, and hip enough to know the difference.

On one hand you celebrate mundanity and banality in music and on the other you attack it.

Meh.

I LOVE that Doves tune Black and White Town



kerosene

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Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:
Mainstream acid-house meets mainstream pop-rock!! Incredible!!

BREAKING NEWS: Music is entertainment. Musicians stand a better chance of making a living doing what they love and developing their art the more people they entertain.

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Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:


Each to their own; I like challenging music that pushes the boundaries. You like trad-rock.

Each to their own; I like anything as long as it's good. I don't feel the need to check that something is inaccessible to 99.9% of the population before subjecting myself to it.

The king is in the all - together...

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Originally posted by ScreamingBlackTerror:
Maybe you should remember that when you are dissing the music that the youngers are digging.

Gullibility has nothing to do with youth.

You should talk to someone about your unhealthy preoccupation with age. You're sowing the seeds of self - loathing in the unlikely event that you're still rockin 10 years from now.

I know I will be.

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Originally posted by Big Star:

admit it, you want the old man's pork in your sausage holder

I'll have to withdraw it from your cute little pussy first...