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Sound Forge lets you adjust the mp3 settings and CE dont!Mad

inconcievable!wtf?Confused...so I am thinkin' of 'migrating' to SF...any pitfalls I should be aware of that a newbie like me can avoid?

(yeah tickboy -- DO NOT RECORD SO HOT HOT HOT!!!)

I just started with SF yesterday, but I thought it looked pretty cool actually...less busy looking for sure....or am I really just wastin' time till Pro Tools squashes them all?

on a different note...WITHOUT the use of a mic preamp...anyone have a good way to boost the output of a mic'd acoustic other than boosting db's at the software level (post recording)? (tryin' to dim the..'thinness' quotientCool )

maybe use two mics? (kinda crowded around me handBig Grin..yes, I always bang into the mic BOOM BOOM Big Grin)

I dont use acoustics much, so I dont wanna just buy a frickin' preamp for that...I have to save for George L cables AND a $65 VL Micro-Vibe pedal (NIB)Big Grin

any ideas appreciated.
thanks
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SF is not a multi tracker. CE is, as far as I remember.

SF will be used for a long time, methinks, unless its new owners, SONY, decide to kill it. We'll see. It's very useful for single a stereo track editing in ways that almost no sequencing program is.

Pro Tools won't ever fully kill off the Cubase/Logic/CE crowd just because Pro Tools is, well, pro. Us cheapos and amateurs need something too!

Doesn't your soundcard have a mic input? Or a stereo with a kareoke input? I say if you're recording at all, you should have at least one preamp layin' around, right? Am I right? Are we gonna split hair here?

How are you micing your amps/voice/etc now without a preamp?
 
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MusicMatch Jukebox lets you change the bit rate when Converting Waves into MP3's. Musicmatch s free. I don't know much at all about Soundforge.
I also can't help with the Mic problem. My best guess is to layer the shit out of your vocals and increase the DB's after adding effects. But most likely (bad news coming so duck!!) you will need a pre-amp for that mic. I used to try and do what your doing but gave up after about a year of trying. You can't make good pancakes withuot a good recipe!!!!!
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Originally posted by thechrisproject:
SF is not a multi tracker. CE is, as far as I remember.

SF will be used for a long time, methinks, unless its new owners, SONY, decide to kill it. We'll see. It's very useful for single a stereo track editing in ways that almost no sequencing program is.

Pro Tools won't ever fully kill off the Cubase/Logic/CE crowd just because Pro Tools is, well, pro. Us cheapos and amateurs need something too!

Doesn't your soundcard have a mic input? Or a stereo with a kareoke input? I say if you're recording at all, you should have at least one preamp layin' around, right? Am I right? Are we gonna split hair here?

How are you micing your amps/voice/etc now without a preamp?


I didnt know SF was not a multi-track recorder.Eek Hadnt gotten that far yet. Kinda a GOOD point!Big Grin...maybe I'll just use it to alter saved files then?...

I record me guitar noises off a mic into a recorder/mixer (portastudio 424) where I EQ it to some degree, then into my Sound Card via rca jacks...no preamps as such. I havent been recording with the Tascam, just using it's EQ/patch to monitor abilities...

Vocals are done straight from mic>portastudio>pc...

acoustic guitar is mic'd directly, like vocals. I EQ them at the portastudio some, but they are pretty thin and reedy sounding unless I am doin alot of rhythm stuff, but still...it's lacking.

the soundcard has rca or midi jacks...not reasonable, or desired to record past the tascam, in my opinion..

thanks Chris
 
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Sonic Foundry/Sony did have a multitracker... Vegas, I think. It had a lot video stuff in it. I remember mixing one song down with it and think that it was kinda neat.

So... you don't record on the PS? You just run mic through it... so the PS has a mic pre then. So is the problem that the PS sounds to thin or is not boosting the signal enough?
 
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I do my multitracking in CE Pro, then save a mixdown to .wav format. It's true that SF doesn't do multi-tracking

I do my mastering in either SF or CE, depending on what I want to do


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I record me guitar noises off a mic into a recorder/mixer (portastudio 424) where I EQ it to some degree, then into my Sound Card via rca jacks...no preamps as such. I havent been recording with the Tascam, just using it's EQ/patch to monitor abilities...

Vocals are done straight from mic>portastudio>pc...

acoustic guitar is mic'd directly, like vocals. I EQ them at the portastudio some, but they are pretty thin and reedy sounding unless I am doin alot of rhythm stuff, but still...it's lacking.

the soundcard has rca or midi jacks...not reasonable, or desired to record past the tascam, in my opinion..

thanks Chris


Dude, you so need a nice cheap mic pre-amp, a nice cheap mixer, and a nice cheap condenser mic.

you can do it for under $200 total, no lie


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Sonic Foundry/Sony did have a multitracker... Vegas, I think. It had a lot video stuff in it. I remember mixing one song down with it and think that it was kinda neat.

So... you don't record on the PS? You just run mic through it... so the PS has a mic pre then. So is the problem that the PS sounds to thin or is not boosting the signal enough?


portaStudio is more a mixer board/analog recorder - not a pre-amp or pre-ampish in capabilitiesSmile

Ed is prolly right (as usual) -- he keeps telling me: 'you are tryin to fry bacon in a paper frier pan..no wonder your bacon is all wet and terrible' Frown

maybe if I use a large funnel to direct the sound to the mic? Smile
 
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Get a ProSonus Blue Tube.You can get them for around $100.
 
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What are you working on Folkland? Iron Maiden

tribute? Hahaha! Big Grin

(I was right behind you but you didnt see me

cause I was in black. . .I am so goth now! Big Grin )

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$49.00 ART 127 Tube MP Microphone Preamp


$49.00 Behringer UB802 Eurorack 8 Input Mixer


$99.99 Behringer B1 Single Diaphragm Studio Condenser Microphone with Shockmount and Case


all at http://www.americanmusical.com/


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www.zzounds.com has the same shit for the same price, but usually better shipping deals, and they price match.
 
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Originally posted by Ed Phobes:
_$49.00_ ART 127 Tube MP Microphone Preamp

_$49.00_ Behringer UB802 Eurorack 8 Input Mixer


_$99.99_ Behringer B1 Single Diaphragm Studio Condenser Microphone with Shockmount and Case



truth be told, you don't really need the mic pre - the board has phantom power . . .


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