Did Hendrix get alot of his sounds with studio tricks or pedals???????
<louie>
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I think it was a combo of his live sounds and him and Kramer doing studio efxs
<rus>
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what are you talking about specifically - there's phasing, wah wah, backwards stuff, feedback, reverb... watch woodstock - that's live and he's just as wacked there without a ton of far out effects (you have to realize they didn't really have that much then, you can go buy a multieffects unit now for 2 or 3 hundred dollars that would've scared hendrix out of his pants)
He turned his knobs all the way up too. Volume, mids, treble, bass, and obviously, maybe the biggest ingredient besides his fingers is the fact that he played an upside down (or backwards, whatever you wanna call it) guitar.
<klasaine>
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Don't forget the coiled cable . ( I'm not kidding ) .
<soundelixir>
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if you've ever played an upside-down strat, it changes playing dynamics completely; the bass strings are tighter and snappier, and the treble strings are way easier to bend- probably a very big factor in his tone. He also sometimes used Sound City heads and Bassmans (such as on Voodoo Chile). Also, there is debate over what tubes he used in his Marshalls. His amp tech (Mr. Diaz, I think) is rumoured to say that Hendrix preffered 6550's that came in American Marshalls over the english EL-34's. 6550's sound signifigantly different; much more brittle sound screechy highs, farty lows, but (and purportedly why Hendrix liked them), they are supposed to have a lot more headroom. Hendrix liked it loud. Also, concerning tone knobs on early Marshalls, diming them does not boost the specific segment of the signal, it just allows the signal to run through without attenuation. So 10 tends to sound more "real" and "live."
<geetarplaya4life>
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With modern gear it would seem practical to get a Line6 DM4 or a Captain Coconut and a wah. Univibe to me is essential for Hendrix clean sounds and it doesn't hurt to add compression for his clean solos to stand out from rhythm playing and add an extra crispness. Oh yeah, a Floyd Rose wouldn't hurt for those who want to recreate a certain Woodstock performance...
<BlkLndn>
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Sorry, but I must disagree with Soundelixir. Since the vibration stops at the nut, it really doesn't matter what length the distance is from the nut to the tree...what determines the tightness of the strings is their individual density which is made to balance across the fixed distance from nut to bridge. And anyway if there was a difference it would be minimal compared to tuning everything down a half step....
<soundelixir>
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go and play one, man.. you'll see...
<klasaine>
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Soundelixer is dead on . Even though the vibration may stop at nut or bridge , tension of the string is determined by how long it is . Forget the Hendrix thing - a top loaded Tele or G & L is easier to bend than a traditional Tele because the strings stop at the bridge . Play an open chord and grab the headstock , you'll see how much energy is transferred behind the nut . I quit using locking tuners because I'm convinced they kill some tone . Sorry to " go off " but I'm starting to notice that it's things like Nuts , tuners , headstock angle , string guage ... technique of course - that make the real differences .
What effect is Hendrix / Krammer using or doing on All Along the Watchtower on his third solo in the song ? I heard it was a Zippo lighter and what ? I think Dave Mason's acoustic guitar is just the wet signal out of a delay unit but I can't seem to figure out how he got that sound and it is driving me completely out of my mind.
Any one know or want to guess ? whammy bar...maybe
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quote:Originally posted by BlkLndn: Sorry, but I must disagree with Soundelixir. Since the vibration stops at the nut, it really doesn't matter what length the distance is from the nut to the tree...what determines the tightness of the strings is their individual density which is made to balance across the fixed distance from nut to bridge. And anyway if there was a difference it would be minimal compared to tuning everything down a half step....
That would be wrong!! Because Jimi's guitars were upside down and backwards, there alot of subtle differences. Regarding string tension, the wound strings have LESS tension, the plain strings, a bit tighter then a normal Strat setup.
<Carlfia>
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quote:Originally posted by GBlekas: The lefty / righty neck does make a difference <br /><br />What effect is Hendrix / Krammer using or doing on All Along the Watchtower on his third solo in the song ? I heard it was a Zippo lighter and what ? I think Dave Mason's acoustic guitar is just the wet signal out of a delay unit but I can't seem to figure out how he got that sound and it is driving me completely out of my mind.<br /><br />Any one know or want to guess ? whammy bar...maybe
Well, if it's any concillation, Hendrix couldn't recreate that effect live either. It's a lighter and creative studio echo.
quote:Originally posted by Laroosco: Cesar wasn't Jimi's amp tech either.
Lawrence D.
correct, nor would he have had any idea what tubes were in Hendrix's amps. Likely, the very earliest Hendrix Marshalls were KT-66 loaded and then EL-34..........any other tube, IMO is somebody's fantasy
Take a close listen to the way the lead sounds right there. I actually bought a Morely EVO-1 for more than it was worth thinking that it was the pedal he used there. It wasn't and I do not hear that kind of effect recorded anywhere except maybe for the band Spirit and the 12 faces of DR. Sardonicus. They came awfully close. It's kinda like an audible melting or something you might have heard after some really good acid. that is the only way I can descibe it.
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As Carl stated earlier, Hendrix couldn't even re-create that effect. In fact, I believe that there is no effect, nothing that can acually recreate that. It is something that people will always wonder, how?? It was a time in musical history that was pure magic, never to duplicated or reproduced.
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