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I have a Traynor YCV20WR that I just never use. It sounds really lousy after you play it for five minutes--plenty of distortion, but not the good kind. It sounds like I'm playing guitar through a cheap transistor radio.

I know it's only 15 watts, but I'm not playing it all that loud.

It's got three 12AX7A's and two EL84's. The speaker is a Celestion "Greenback" G12M 12.

Should I look for new tubes? Would it benefit me to try switching from EL84's to something else?

Anybody else had this problem?


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Posts: 1267 | Location: Near a swamp in south Louisiana | Registered: July 27, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Do you know how old the EL84's are?I would retube it 1st.EL84's are pretty cheap.I'd give the EL84 JJ's a try.
 
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I second the JJ's. I would keep the EL84's they are very cool sounding. If the tubes don't solve the problem there may be an issue somewhere else.
 
Posts: 5748 | Location: Midland, MI | Registered: December 24, 2002Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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A retube is defiantly going to help. The most important tube in any amp is the first preamp tube, most people refer to this as v1. Experiment with a few different ones to find the one you like. I seem to go for a jj or a tungsol but thats just me. I would also replace the el84s as cathode biased amps running el84s kill them fast. I recommend the jjs for most everything but a pair of electro harmonix can sound real nice also. But yeah sounds like your tubes are dying.
 
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Use JJs, the tubes that came with those amps were prone to failure.
 
Posts: 281 | Location: Holland, MI | Registered: April 23, 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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If it occurs in one channel but not the other it is more likely a pre amp tube. Switch V1 and V2. If it changes you've found your culprit. If not, then it is possibly a power tube, a failing bias cap or a cold solder joint.
Contrary to many others i prefer the sovtek el84's in tone but it is hit-or-miss as they don't all sound alike. i had to go through 11 to find 4 that sounded great. JJ has better quality control from my experience but in general a blander sound in my 18-watt marshall clone. i don't like jj's at all in single-ended amps.
Good luck.
 
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Heres your prescription.
Matched pair JJ El84's
V1 NOS Jan Philips 5751
V2 Tungsol 12ax7
V3 Balanced JJEcc83s

All this can be picked up at tube depot. Run you about $50 but its the best setup I have found for most EL84 cathode biased push pulls.
 
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