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That sounds fairly bizarre. But try this - pull the string tight, and then at about 3/4" or so past the tuning peg, give the string a sharp angled bend. On a right handed, "six tuners per side" guitar, the bends should be going to the left, as you face the guitar. After you've made several wraps with the string, finish it off with a "half wrap" - a wrap around half of the peg's diameter, and then through the slotted area. Tough to describe without drawing a picture, but maybe you get what I'm saying. This is a stabilizing method that I use, but I can't say I've encountered the popping off string thingy that you describe. I have guitars with tuners like you describe. Off the top of my head, I can't say what lengths I pre-cut the strings to. But I use four full wraps on the high E and B; three full wraps on the G and D; two full wraps on the A and low E. Plus the additional "half wraps" on the unwound G, B, and E. For maximum tuning stability, coil the wraps very neatly atop each other (like a coiled up snake), with no sloppy, bunched up stuff. It does indeed make a difference, particularly on the low E.
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The tuners on the G&L's work the same as the Fender "F" tuners. I too have trouble with the high E wanting to pop out every once in a while. After you put the sstring end in the tuner you have to pull it tight with one hand while winding the string.
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I think from your description you've got split-shaft tuners. If this is true, musictoyz has a great article on how to string these vintage strat style tuners. http://www.musictoyz.com/gearhead/gear16.phpJust load that page, and scroll down to the first couple diagrams to check if those are the type of tuners you've got. If so, I highly recommend this article, it worked great for me.
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This article referenced above is a good one...In Dan Erhlewine's repair book, he sites another way to string up these Saf-T-Tuners...pull the string taught against the tuner post, wrap around three times then feed the remaining string through the slot and make sure to do a hard angle bend in the opposite direction of the string wind. Leave a little tail and clip and press against the post. Tune to pitch. This works surprising well and eliminates the length guess work using the hole in the post...are we allowed to post pics here?, I could scan the picture from the book, it makes more sense if you see the diagram.
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